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Salty Dog
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just got back from a weekend at the Square Dance campground.

How about maintaining the tenders/lifeboats?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope that wasn't the answer I was looking for. I'm not saying any of them didn't do that but since the carpenter had tools hopefully anyway he was giving another duty that wasn't related to his normal duty. An exception might could be made if they had a more qualified person on board for the job other then the carpenter.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I know this one, but we've been kitten sitting for my niece. The little rascal has been pusskeyfooting me continuously.

I posed the question earlier who was in charge of the ship's boats, and I'm glad Salty remembered the answer that it's the carpenter, at least in the British and American navies.

Answer- medic Pirate ships didn't normally have doctors or surgeons, and neither did merchant ships. Because the carpenter had the tools, and knew how to sharpen a saw, it was up to him to perform amputations and extract splinters. A barber might do the duties if you had one, as they used to let blood and draw teeth, too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup that's it Rusty. One pirate I can think of off the top of my head actually did have a doctor but certainly most didn't. Samuel Bellamy had one. Dr. Ferguson I believe it was.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the age of sale, hemp rope was used for standing and running rigging. Eventually it was replaced by Manila cordage. Why?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe people were using rope for dope Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Manila rope cost less?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it wasn't about the medicinal qualities of Sativa hemp.

I'm not sure about the comparative costs, but hemp was grown in the New World, Middle east and India, so it was in good supply for European and American ship builders. Manila was native to the Philippine Islands, and scarce.

So, if there were a cost consideration, it probably wasn't about initial cost of construction.

There is a difference in properties. Particularly when it gets wet.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm sure its harder to light the hemp when it gets wet.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More water resistant maybe. Last longer perhaps. Easier to use when wet. Doesn't dry rot easy or who knows.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Manila rope must last longer when wet. Hemp rope may mildew and rot when used in wet conditions, and Manila rope less so.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salty Dog wrote:
The Manila rope must last longer when wet. Hemp rope may mildew and rot when used in wet conditions, and Manila rope less so.


Correct. Your turn Salty

Hemp rope tends to rot when it gets wet. So, in practical terms, that meant that they had to "tar" the standing rigging (the stuff that supports the masts) with pine pitch to waterproof it. Like paint, it had to be re-applied. An additional expense and labor. Less of an issue in the navy where there is excess labor between battles.

In contrast, Manila shrinks when it gets wet, so it draws the knots and lines tighter, making the masts more secure.

So as the demand grew, the supply followed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sticking with the rope thread:

When was fiberglass rope invented and why was it enthusiastically adopted?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When? I've been pondering the point.

I'll guess that it was a "space age" material developed in the 1960's to meet the needs of that program.

It's probably lighter, stronger and fire resistant.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go ahead and search......
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