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Javi
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 6:31 pm Post subject: Speed among "very fast" ships |
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Did any of you find any difference among the speed of the "very fast ships"?
I feel my new Pinaze (with cotton sails of course) slower than my last indian canoe... |
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fossaman
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, but the war canoe, pinnace, and mail runner have the same top speed. That's why I always use a mail runner when possible. _________________
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rupertlittlebear
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Speed among "very fast" ships |
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Javi wrote: | Did any of you find any difference among the speed of the "very fast ships"?
I feel my new Pinaze (with cotton sails of course) slower than my last indian canoe... | Agree, and they feel like they turn slower as well. |
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Javi
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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fossaman wrote: | Sorry, but the war canoe, pinnace, and mail runner have the same top speed. That's why I always use a mail runner when possible. |
Yeah, it says the rules, but, for me, the pinnace seens to be slower than a war canoe, and also, as rupertlittlebear said, it tuns slower.
And, finally, it´s easier to hit a pinnace than a war canoe, that for sure. I mean, now that i changed to a pinnace I saw how some shots hit me when before they pass me over.
Then, I´m not sure about the change I did... For 2 cannos more is a good idea to chose a pinnace?
PS: I didn´t see any mail runner in the game for now.. So, i can´t compare then with the pinace or the war canoe...
Actually, It´s rare because I was playing for more than 30 years... |
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Javi
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Speed among "very fast" ships |
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rupertlittlebear wrote: | Javi wrote: | Did any of you find any difference among the speed of the "very fast ships"?
I feel my new Pinaze (with cotton sails of course) slower than my last indian canoe... | Agree, and they feel like they turn slower as well. |
Then, what do you prefer for uoyr flag ship? |
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fossaman
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Mail runners only appear as pirate hunters(I think) and as couriers for escort missions. Part of the reason I like the pinnace and mail runner better than the war canoe is because they can carry more crew, so I can capture more ships without returning to port. I believe the difference is forty-five men. The added cargo room doesn't hurt either.
And the pinnace and mail runner have to be easier to hit. They're bigger! _________________
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rupertlittlebear
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 2:41 am Post subject: Re: Speed among "very fast" ships |
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Javi wrote: | rupertlittlebear wrote: | Javi wrote: | Did any of you find any difference among the speed of the "very fast ships"?
I feel my new Pinaze (with cotton sails of course) slower than my last indian canoe... | Agree, and they feel like they turn slower as well. |
Then, what do you prefer for uoyr flag ship? | Silly Pirate,
I be a Canoe Jockey! |
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Javi
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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fossaman wrote: | Mail runners only appear as pirate hunters(I think) and as couriers for escort missions. Part of the reason I like the pinnace and mail runner better than the war canoe is because they can carry more crew, so I can capture more ships without returning to port. I believe the difference is forty-five men. The added cargo room doesn't hurt either.
And the pinnace and mail runner have to be easier to hit. They're bigger! |
I only care about the speed of my ship to charge at the enemies asap...
Then, I´m afraid i get wrong changing to a pinnace... |
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Airsaw
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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I've said over and over I prefer a Brig of War. It isn't the fastest. It isn't the most agile. It isn't the strongest. It's enough of a combination of all three to be what I want. It's hard to forget what I've done to various other ships with this one. Pinnace's, mail runners, canoes...I've blasted them into splinters so many times, they seem like matchboxes to me. If they want to stand off and shoot at me, I'm more than happy to oblige. They just don't have as much wood. I know I'll win at attrition. If they want to charge at me to board, why I just let them come. One dose of chain shot and they're a raft so fast, they're begging for mercy. One dose of grapeshot, and they're bobbing about wishing they'd chosen another career.
Larger ships, a BoW's agility is sufficient to make up for it's comparative fragility. Its mix of square and lateen sails keep it moving in any wind. Its crew capacity makes boarding a cinch. None better, to me.
I know I give up trans-oceanic speed. But, it evens out in the overall. Speed isn't everything in this game. Survivability is. I still contend if I were driving these ships war canoe junkies attack with such ease, they would be finding themselves shopping around for something that can take a hit. 'Cause, I'll hit 'em. There'd be no storming the decks for free in that confrontation. There would be a lot of splinters with pirates hanging on, hitching a ride. _________________
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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I like the royal sloop. Very nice, quick boat. I've used brigs, I like them, but they've got too many guns for my taste. I like putting only a few rounds into a ship before out-manuvering it and boarding. One great thing about the brig though...Great for sailing into the wind. Better than even the sloop. _________________
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rupertlittlebear
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Have you driven a Canoe Lately? |
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fossaman
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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I've tried a brig of war, but I just didn't care for it. I can use one in a pinch, but I much prefer the agility of the sloops, or if I can get one, pinnace class ships. I've taken on Ships of the Line and demasted them using a mail runner, without getting hit. Plus, the mail runner's small size means that it's shot will be grouped closely together and most of it will hit. I probably get about the same number of shots to hit with a mail runner as I do with a Royal sloop. _________________
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SubDivi
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:22 am Post subject: |
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fossaman wrote: | I've tried a brig of war, but I just didn't care for it. I can use one in a pinch, but I much prefer the agility of the sloops, or if I can get one, pinnace class ships. I've taken on Ships of the Line and demasted them using a mail runner, without getting hit. Plus, the mail runner's small size means that it's shot will be grouped closely together and most of it will hit. I probably get about the same number of shots to hit with a mail runner as I do with a Royal sloop. |
I have a feeling if Ship Battles go MP, that alot of the pinnace fanatics with be scuttling their little row boats in trade for something atleast the size of a Royal Sloop. Against the (seemingly moronic) AI a human should have no real problem sinking any vessle on fair ground.. err, water, that is. Playing against a person however.. well, one shot from a Frigate could be the end of said ships.
Alas, however, I feel that it doesn't matter against the AI as it doesn't have any true foresight into your moves and thus can't aim correctly.. meaning we can just dart straight into them. Also, in MP, Crewsize would play a fairly large part in fencing.. right now as it is I can pretty much safely take any ship with 30 men.
As for me and the BoW; I use it often if I don't have a large frigate. It does well for pouncing on pirate hunters who aparenly know we're out of lemons. _________________ Some men bring home the bacon - I choose to bring home the booty. |
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Javi
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Airsaw wrote: | I've said over and over I prefer a Brig of War. It isn't the fastest. It isn't the most agile. It isn't the strongest. It's enough of a combination of all three to be what I want. It's hard to forget what I've done to various other ships with this one. Pinnace's, mail runners, canoes...I've blasted them into splinters so many times, they seem like matchboxes to me. If they want to stand off and shoot at me, I'm more than happy to oblige. They just don't have as much wood. I know I'll win at attrition. If they want to charge at me to board, why I just let them come. One dose of chain shot and they're a raft so fast, they're begging for mercy. One dose of grapeshot, and they're bobbing about wishing they'd chosen another career.
Larger ships, a BoW's agility is sufficient to make up for it's comparative fragility. Its mix of square and lateen sails keep it moving in any wind. Its crew capacity makes boarding a cinch. None better, to me.
I know I give up trans-oceanic speed. But, it evens out in the overall. Speed isn't everything in this game. Survivability is. I still contend if I were driving these ships war canoe junkies attack with such ease, they would be finding themselves shopping around for something that can take a hit. 'Cause, I'll hit 'em. There'd be no storming the decks for free in that confrontation. There would be a lot of splinters with pirates hanging on, hitching a ride |
I see... But.... How do you get a indian canoe, pinnace, etc. in a battle if it strartes to run and run to escape from you?
I mean, at Swasbuckler it´s almost impossible to get them with a slow Brig of War...
Al least, for me... [/quote] |
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Javi
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I have a feeling if Ship Battles go MP, that alot of the pinnace fanatics with be scuttling their little row boats in trade for something atleast the size of a Royal Sloop. Against the (seemingly moronic) AI a human should have no real problem sinking any vessle on fair ground.. err, water, that is. Playing against a person however.. well, one shot from a Frigate could be the end of said ships. |
I don´t agree... ONLY talking about ship battles (the problem would be the fencing after that) I can bet that no Human could hit my indian canoe flying at 20 knots...
A frigate or a SoLT are great ships, but I´m sure that I could charge at them wihout any hit or his cannos....
For me, the main question is boarding the enemy asap, and, for that, nothing better than an indian canoe |
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