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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fleetp wrote:
I'm going to guess Milton Berle.

Your guess is correct. Other, more established, stars (e.g., Jack Benny) didn't want to risk their careers on the new medium, but Berle, whose career was not going so well, had little to lose.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roland wrote:
fleetp wrote:
I'm going to guess Milton Berle.

Your guess is correct. Other, more established, stars (e.g., Jack Benny) didn't want to risk their careers on the new medium, but Berle, whose career was not going so well, had little to lose.


What US nationally broadcast entertainment television show first featured Elvis Presley?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will guess the Ed Sullivan Show but that could be wrong.

Another comedian who became famous on TV was Sid Cesar. Like Milton Berle, TV made him big for a few years and then he fizzled out. Bob Hope saw this trend and elected to do "TV Specials" a few each year and they were very popular and he did not go down in popularity. Smart move on his part.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salty Dog wrote:
I will guess the Ed Sullivan Show but that could be wrong.

Another comedian who became famous on TV was Sid Cesar. Like Milton Berle, TV made him big for a few years and then he fizzled out. Bob Hope saw this trend and elected to do "TV Specials" a few each year and they were very popular and he did not go down in popularity. Smart move on his part.


Ed Sullivan was a good guess, but incorrect.
This is a tough one. Feel free to do a search.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ed Sullivan Show would have been my first guess, as well. How about American Bandstand?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a great story!


On June 5, 1956 A National TV Audience Got the Full Elvis on the Milton Berle Show

On this Date in History: I would wager that if someone asked you which TV show was Elvis Presley’s first television appearance, you would answer the Ed Sullivan Show. That would be wrong. His first TV appearance was on January 28, 1956 on the little remembered, Stage Show, co-hosted by Jimmy and Tommy Dorsey. He appeared on the next 3 episodes and a total of 6 appearances. I’m not sure if the show lasted much longer than that but the press really didn’t pay much attention. His first national TV appearance was on April 3, 1956 on the Milton Berle Show. Berle remembered that there were many stars on that night including Hugh Jarrett, Esther Williams, Buddy Rich and Harry James. Milton Berle also mentioned Buddy Hackett but the rundown of those who appeared does not list Hackett. In any event, Elvis was an unknown young performer. Elvis’s agent, Colonel Parker (see book about Parker and Presley) had called Berle and asked him to give Elvis an audition. Berle did and was impressed enough to book Elvis on the show. Elvis performed “Shake Rattle and Roll,” “Heartbreak Hotel” and “Blue Suede Shoes.” Of the three, Elvis wrote “Heartbreak Hotel.”


Steve Allen Came Up With a Creative Way in Which to Control Presley When He Sang "Hound Dog"

The story gets a little cloudy here because in an interview of Berle, he seems to mix two appearances into one. Apparently, Elvis was gaining in popularity but the press still generally ignored him. You see, it was the second appearance of Elvis on the Milton Berle Show on this date in 1956 that launched him into immortal superstardom. On that show, Elvis performed “Hound Dog.” For some reason, the press decided to pay attention this time. Perhaps Elvis had not shown much style in his first appearance but I suppose he was feeling more confident the second time around because he showed off his moves. He gyrated and shook and the kids went wild, the parents were aghast and the censors were frantic. The New York Journal-American wrote that the young man’s “primitive physical movement difficult to describe in terms suitable to a family newspaper.” The San Francisco Chronicle called the performance “In appalling taste.” The New York Daily News said that Elvis “gave an exhibition that was suggestive and vulgar, tinged with the kind of animalism that should be confined to dives and bordellos.” Berle said that 4 days after the show he received 400,000 “pan” letters. Not “fan mail” but “pan mail.” People wrote to Berle and said that they would never watch his show again after he showed that disgusting young man. Berle said that he called Colonel Parker to inform him that he had a star on his hands. Berle recognized that if that many people took the time to write letters then he had to be on the minds of just about everyone. All publicity is good publicity.


Sullivan Initially Said No To Elvis

Now, Ed Sullivan had vowed to never book Elvis on his show due to all of his controversial wiggling. But, there were more shows besides Sullivan. Three days prior to his groundbreaking second appearance on Milton Berle, Elvis showed up on Your Hit Parade and went on the show again on June 9, 1956. The first of July found Elvis on the Steve Allen Show where he wore a tuxedo as he performed “Hound Dog” singing to a sad looking basset hound. Allen had considered pulling him from the show after the backlash of the Berle appearance. Instead, he took a comic approach and put Elvis in the tuxedo with the dog in an effort to control him. Elvis went along with it. An appearance with Jack Benny followed that. Sullivan had turned down an offer to pay $5000 to put Elvis on his show but after Allen with Elvis destroyed Sullivan without Elvis in the ratings, old Ed promptly changed his mind. The show was called originally called “Toast of the Town” and the guest host on September 9, 1956 was Charles Laughton of Captain Bligh fame from Mutiny on the Bounty. Also on the show was the same Hugh Jarrett who was booked on the Milton Berle show on which Elvis made his national debut. Sullivan wasn’t in the New York theatre as he was recovering from injuries suffered in an automobile accident so Laughton filled in. Elvis wasn’t in the theatre either. He was in Hollywood shooting his first movie. So, Laughton tossed to the guest by saying “away to Hollywood to meet Elvis Presley.” Elvis performed from a studio there. Sullivan was happy because his show that night got boffo ratings and he must have also been relieved. His delay resulted in Sullivan signing Elvis for 3 appearances for $50,000 which was an unheard of some in those days.

By not having Elvis on sooner, Sullivan may have helped himself even though he cost himself money. Other shows built his popularity so, by the time he made it to the biggest show on TV, the Sullivan Show, people watched in record numbers. Myths get spread so much that often that the myth becomes the truth. As previously mentioned, many people probably remember the Sullivan appearance as Elvis’s national TV debut. They also probably recall that the censors on Sullivan’s show required that all shots of his performances would be from the waste up. Well, on that first Sullivan appearance, his first song was “Don’t be Cruel” and the cameras did in fact stay from the waste up, showing The King in a very loud plaid jacket. But the jacket was not the only thing that screamed out. Women in the audience were screaming at something Elvis did beyond the camera range. He then performed “Love Me Tender” which was his new song associated with his first movie of the same title. But, the cameras gave the television audience the full Elvis for his second segment. They showed his feet, his hips, his legs…everything wildly moving about as he performed the Little Richard song “Ready Teddy” and a couple of verses of “Hound Dog.” So, Elvis was not really censored by Ed Sullivan.


Plenty of Ladies Got to See Elvis Wiggle on the Sullivan Show

The myth was created by the press who noted that tight shots were used whenever he started to dance. Perhaps it was censorship but more likely it was a director taking different camera shots. The audience saw plenty of Elvis in action and they certainly heard the women in the audience sqeal every time Elvis grunted, crossed his eyes, moved his tongue or even just stood perfectly still. Laughton concluded the show by saying, ”Well, what did someone say? Music hath charms to soothe the savage breast?” On that night, Ed Sullivan’s show was seen by 82.6% of the total television audience in America. Steve Allen didn’t even try as NBC pre-empted his show with a movie.

Now, the last time that Elvis appeared on Sullivan’s show (by that time it was called the Ed Sullivan Show) was on January 6, 1957 and the TV camera’s did indeed only show him from the waste up as he sang the Gospel song, “Peace in the Valley.” Given that these close ups were for a non-rock and roll tune, many historians believe it was Parker’s idea to limit the camera shots as a way of creating publicity and not an order from Sullivan. Elvis never performed for Sullivan again but it wasn’t because Ed was upset; he was a tightwad. Colonel Parker had raised the fee for his star to perform on TV to $300,000 with a stipulation that the network had to agree to put him on two additional guest spots as well as a one hour special. Parker credited the Sullivan appearances as the key to the success of the single and the movie “Love Me Tender.” And many music and tv historians say that it was the 3 Sullivan appearances by Elvis to gain support from the parents of the kids who already loved the king as Sullivan somehow bridged a generation gap. Obviously, Elvis’s movements were tame by today’s standards, or lack thereof, but it was his breakthrough in his performing style that continues to influence rock stars today.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New Question: This one is easy

Who is/were the biggest guest appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show in it's whole history? What person or persons drew the biggest audience?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Beatles?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely! I remember seeing them perform in early 1964 and they were a bombshell going off, they captured the world!!!
Your turn Roland....
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roman gladiators came in several types, each with its own characteristic weapons and armor. How was the retiarius armed? Wait 12 hours before searching the internet.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roland wrote:
Roman gladiators came in several types, each with its own characteristic weapons and armor. How was the retiarius armed? Wait 12 hours before searching the internet.

Fishnet and Trident?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Teague wrote:
Fishnet and Trident?

Correct!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all."

Who said it, and why?


Wait 12 hours to Google. Massive props if you outright know it.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no clue who your talking about but it did remind me of the song played on Hee Haw by Buck Owens and Roy Clark. The gloom and despair song.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pirate wrote:
I have no clue who your talking about but it did remind me of the song played on Hee Haw by Buck Owens and Roy Clark. The gloom and despair song.


That is actually where it came from.

My mother LOVED that show, saw a couple of reruns with her and clips on YouTube. They do not make comedy like that anymore...


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