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fleetp
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:09 pm    Post subject: Using the trainer with the Steam version of Pirates Reply with quote

Kobra299 made an important discovery, which deserves to be stickied, rather than hidden away. His original comment has been slightly edited.

I got the trainer working on the Steam version of Pirates; I had to change the game type from 1.20 to the Bigpond and TryMedia one and it works.



EDIT by fleet: Your results may vary.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am happy he got it to work but after thinking about it I was wondering why it worked. The trainer works with version 1.0, 1.1, and if you notice th next will say 1.02/ Steam. Not being a overly gifted with intelligence I'm assuming that Steam did not release the game until patch 1.02 came out and that's perhaps why you don't see 1.0/steam or 1.01/steam. Bigpond I'm thinking is a down under company that made games available for downloading. If that is the case then why is it working for a steam game rather then the 1.02/steam. I'm thinking too that the trainer has bugs like for instance make all towns wealthy will cause my game to crash but most everything else works just fine. Could this be a result of the differences from the steam version and the regular cd version of the game? Being a skeptic by nature I don't always make the assumption that what someone said is correct. I'd feel much more comfortable if we had some known steam users try the trainer out to see which setting worked for them before we can say Big Pond is the one steam users should select.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@pirate
I skimmed through the trainer thread, and didn't see any instances where people said they got the trainer to work with steam. Since kobra was the only person (I might have missed someone else saying how they got it to work) who posted that he got it to work, I thought how he did it should be highlighted.

If someone posts that the method didn't work for them I will alter my post. Would it be better if I just deleted my post now?

I don't want to disseminate false information.

Very respectfully,
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fleetp wrote:
@pirate
I skimmed through the trainer thread, and didn't see any instances where people said they got the trainer to work with steam. Since kobra was the only person (I might have missed someone else saying how they got it to work) who posted that he got it to work, I thought how he did it should be highlighted.

If someone posts that the method didn't work for them I will alter my post. Would it be better if I just deleted my post now?

I don't want to disseminate false information.

Very respectfully,
fleet


I would like to hear from other steam users so that it could be determined weather or not Bigpond is the correct setting. Kobra may very well have discovered the correct setting but it just doesn't make sense to me why it would work on Bigpond. Since I'm only one of us in this great community we have it would be best to hear from others as to weather or not you should delete it or not. I mean I would hate to see a man who really did make a discovery to have his findings deleted. I don't think we want to do that to anybody.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings All. I skimmed back thru the Trainer Sticky to see what I could dig up. I feel like I had a valid reason for being skeptical as to the trainer working on Bigpond for Steam users. As I expected Bigpond is a downloadable version of SMP but it's a Australian company and different folks then steam. I did see that the creator said that steam was on the normal setting of 1.02 but I saw too someone claiming it worked for them on BigPond but I'm not certain if they had the Steam version or not. Unless we have other people to step up and say my steam version only works on Bigpond or my steam version works on on 1.02 then we have to assume that Kobra made his work this way but I wouldn't wright it in stone for everybody based on just this. The best advice I could give someone is if your Steam doesn't work on it's intended 1.02 steam then try Bigpond. It might be that the Steam exe and Bigponds are similar or it might be a bug in the trainer I don't know but I do know it didn't make sense to me that it will work on BigPond. I don't think it was intended to anyway even if it does. Whats your view folks? I welcome all comments good bad or somewhere in between.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At http://www.cheathappens.com/show_board2.asp?headID=86162&titleID=9981

I found this:
"DigitalIP posted on Oct 31, 2010 12:08:53 AM

Sorry for such a late post, incase anyone still has issues, This works on all versions. Run the game then the trainer or other way around(cant remember been a while) On the Trainer goto SMP Version and select the version your using, i have it for Steam and it works on the BigPond/Trymedia version on the Trainer, to see if it works goto "Personal Status" on the trainer and set your gold to the amount you choose and click "Lock". everything else is explained in the readme."

I checked and this is for Phalzyr's Trainer.

Like pirate, I want to hear about others' experiences with the trainer on the Steam version of SMP.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just downloaded this game on Steam after a long hiatus (last time I logged on this site was 2005!). After playing for a few hours I remembered how much I hated dancing on the higher levels so I decided to come back here.

Instead of going to the PHTrainer thread and reading it first I just went straight to the mods section and downloaded the latest version (which I thought was the latest version at the time..) of the PHTrainer in the "other" section which is 3.18. After trying everything I still couldn't get it to work so I started reading the main thread and realized that 3.20 is out.

After downloading the correct 3.20 trainer it worked flawlessly with Steam after selecting BigPond/Try Media. The 1.02/Steam option doesn't work. It also doesn't seem to matter if you have the game open first or the trainer. They both work for me. I haven't encountered any bugs using various options that cause it to crash either.

Either way hope this helped. I posted the 3.18 story just in case someone else did the same thing I did.

Also I'm using Windows-7 64 bit.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ungo,
Welcome back! Smile
I'm glad you got the trainer to work correctly.
Eleven years between posts must be a new record.

Very respectfully,
fleetp
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi! First should I install 3.20 and use Big Pond. If so where can I find the 3.20 download. Second when I used 3.18 it said " The code execution cannot proceed because trainerkit.dll was not found. Reinstalling the program, may fix this problem." right after I extracted it and tried to run the trainer. I installed 3 times and found the file it couldn't find. Could this happen in the the 3.20 download? Thank you
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BaCoNZ_ wrote:
Hi! First should I install 3.20 and use Big Pond. If so where can I find the 3.20 download. Second when I used 3.18 it said " The code execution cannot proceed because trainerkit.dll was not found. Reinstalling the program, may fix this problem." right after I extracted it and tried to run the trainer. I installed 3 times and found the file it couldn't find. Could this happen in the the 3.20 download? Thank you


The PHtrainer version 3.20 is at
https://gamefront.online/files/listing/pub2/sid-meiers-pirates/Tools_and_Utilities/
It's the one I use.
The Trainer version (Steam or Bigpond) you choose depends on what version of Sid Meier's Pirates you have.
If you are using the CD version of Pirates, select the Steam version of the trainer.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I broke Steam Pirates! out after some time and can similarly confirm the "BigPond/Try Media" is the option to use.

Windows 10 Professional
Installed on D drive
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