Golden Cross

[Warden]

Excuse my stupidity, but, in this context, what actually means "Followed it perfectly"? I know translation of the words, but the meaning of the whole phrase rather unclean to me. Thanks.

So, if information what I provided was useful, maybe some kind person e-mail Sashanan about including it into his great FAQ/Strategy Guide? I can do it myself, but I don't want to frighten Sashanan with my awful grammar.

[davyjones]

It means that I was able to understand 100% of what you wrote.

[ExtraCrispy]

Welcome to the forum. I doubt the Jesuit items do anything.
Relations with the indians and jesuits were a feature that were cut out.

[Warden]

Well, just try what I wrote in the first post - find suitable friendly Jesuit Mission, take quest from the abbot et cetera. Try it first without any of sacred items, and then try with both Golden Cross and Sacred Relic to see bigger difference. If you want, I can provide you suitable save files.

[ExtraCrispy]

One of the posters mentioned it here a while back.

The fact that villages and and missions never change from Friendly seems to confirm this.

[Warden]

Well, it's true, that in game there is no such relations with Jesuits as with four nations for example, but it doesn't mean, that Sacred Items don't do anything. As I mentioned before, Jesuit Missions have two states - "Friendly Jesuit Mission" and just "Jesuit Mission". They never get angry at you, whatever you doing. At start they are all "Friendly Jesuit Mission", and they change their state ONLY if you take quest from the abbot (or talk to him, but refuse to take quest). Sacred Items just reduces time, that needs for the Mission to became "friendly" again, no more, no less. Not that very useful, but if you often use Mission services (amnesty or smth), it can be very handy.

So, as I told you before, just try it, if you don't believe me. It will not take very much time.

[ExtraCrispy]

I will test it out.

[jlangsdo]

Confirmed!

Jesuit Missions do have 2 states; when they are"Friendly", they have a mission for you (amnesty/Raymondo/immigrants), otherwise they do not. They do become friendly on the turn of a month, though they can stay unfriendly for several months. Getting the Golden Cross does seem to have a significant effect in making them become friendly again sooner. I was able to capture Brother Paolo's Pinnace several months in a row from the same Mission with the cross, whereas the same mission stayed unfriendly for months without one.

Also, I noticed that different Jesuit Missions seem to have different standard missions. One mission always had Brother Paolo (unless I took the amnesty, in which case it had immigrants), while another always had immigrants. I don't know whether that depends on the country ruling the nearest nation or not; the Mission where I kept finding Brother Paolo was nearest a Spanish city.

[sparticus]

[Guru]

Impressive! Someone finally found a use for the Jesuit items (although small). So the Indian items probably have the same effect in interaction with Indians?

Still not gonna buy them though
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[ExtraCrispy]

Maybe it's just the placebo effect.

[sparticus]

[Rupert Drake]

I was never offered an amnesty at all, those priests always give me only "escort immigrants" missions. But I buy all the unique items anyway.

[jlangsdo]

The different Jesuit Missions have different preferred things to offer. (They will all tell you about Baron Raymondo the first time, that's beside the point). A Mission that offers amnesty will offer amnesty again and again; so will a mission with many immigrants.

Which means, if you are looking for some immigrants to beef up your favorite city, and stumble across an amnesty mission, make note of it. You might be looking for amnesty in a few years.

[scandinavian]