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marquissebastienleblanc
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: 17th Century Contemporary Flags Reply with quote

Greetings,-

As some of your are probably aware, there's a fantastic vexillological (study of vexilla, flags) called Flags of the World. Several mirrors of this resource can be found by Googling the term, "FOTW".

I've found several obscure contemporary flags, and here are links to some of the ones I found most interesting:

UK: Flags of the Interregnum (1649-1660)



http://www.fotw.us/flags/gb-inter.html

Scotland: Scottish Red Ensign (end of XVII Century):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/gb~s-re.html

Dutch West Indies Company (1621-1793):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/nl-indch.html

The Admiralty of Brittany - French Province (1554-1626, 1669-1789):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/fr-bz~ad.html

There are many others in there - these are just some of the designs I've used as a basis for some of my own custom flags. I particularly enjoy flying Cromwell's flag while attacking the ships flying the Cross of St. George... Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tip. Its always good to know where to look for something new without spending hours going through searches. I have been yearning for some new flags so I will definately check out Flags of the World.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 2:07 pm    Post subject: More Interesting Flags, Same Period, Same Site Reply with quote

Here are a couple more interesting ones. The Spanish "Galleons' Ensign" I've seen used here already as one of the downloadable DDS textures.

Ensign for the Spanish Netherlands - Belgium (1520 - 1701):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/es1506.html

Spanish Galleons' Ensign (1520 - 1701):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/es1506.html

Scottish Colony (Huh?!) at Darien (Panama), 1699:



http://www.fotw.us/flags/pa-dar.html

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Now, I don't consider myself ignorant about history, but honestly, have any of you ever heard of the Scots having had a colony at Panama??? Wierd.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:20 pm    Post subject: A Few More... Reply with quote

Again, I've already seen some of these as DDS textures... but if you feel like doing it yourself, or just want more info on the flag in question:

French Merchant Flag:



http://www.fotw.us/flags/fr~mon.html

French White Ensign (1638-1790):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/fr~mon.html

Spanish "Burgundy Cross" (1506-1785):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/es1506.html

Christ Knights' Order Naval Flag / Portugal (c.1669):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/pt~oxp.html#fasc

Portugal (flag of 1667):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/pt-1667.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still searching...

Not exactly the Spanish Main, but not that far away... Smile

Dutch Brazil / Nieuw Holland (1624-61):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/br-col.html

The Principality of Brazil (c. 1645):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/br-col.html

The "Guinea Jack" of the Royal Africa Company (slave traders, 17th Century):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/gb-rac.html

English Blue Ensign (1620-1702):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/gb-enshs.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some flags for Americans' slight claim to 17th Century history...

Massachusetts Bay Colony, unofficial flag (c. 1636):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/us-neng.html

Note: the St. George cross was removed from this flag because it was preached that the cross was a symbol of popery and the antichrist!

Flag of New England (1686-1707):



http://www.midcoast.com/~martucci/flags/NEFlag.html

Lord Baltimore Flag / Maryland (17th Century):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/us-md-lb.html

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: The Peace of Westphalia Reply with quote

Greetings,

The following is a partial listing of European countries in existance by the Peace of Westphalia, a big, very important, world-altering treaty signed around 1648.

Here's a link to a Wikipedia article on the treaty itself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Westphalia

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Denmark and Norway, Kingdom of
England, Kingdom of
France, Kingdom of
Holy Roman Empire
Hungary, Kingdom of
Ireland, Kingdom of
Milan, Duchy of
Netherlands, Spanish
Netherlands, United
Ottoman Empire
Papal States
Poland, Kingdom of
Portugal, Kingdom of
Prussia, Duchy of (Poland)
Ragusa, Republic of (Dubrovnik)
Savoy, Duchy of (Italy)
Scotland, Kingdom of
Spain, Kingdom of
Sweden, Kingdom of
Switzerland
Transylvania, Kingdom of
Tuscany, Grand Duchy of
Two Sicilies, Kingdom of the
Venice, Republic of

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some pretty cool flags and great history digging.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:53 pm    Post subject: Italian Flags, XVII Century Reply with quote

Greetings again,

As I live in northern New Jersey, I know a great many Italian-Americans. I know they at least would appreciate the following:

Venice, Republic of:



http://www.fotw.us/flags/it-ven-h.html

Though there doesn't appear to have even been an "official" heraldry or flag for Venice in the XVII century, the lion of Saint Marco on a red background appears to have been the "official" symbol for Venice since the 1300's. That, and it just looks cool...

Genoa, Republic of:

It appears that from the XIII century until the early XIX century, Genoa used the St George Cross on a white background. This made their flag look almost exactly like the flag of England. So, I guess just use England's flag (not UK's...) and pretend it's Genoese! Smile

Tuscany, Duchy of:





http://www.fotw.us/flags/it_tus.html#med

These are actually flags for the Medici family, who ruled as dukes of Florence (and later Tuscany) from the XV century until the XVIII century. There are apparently several variations of this flag, but they all share the CoA w/. the five red balls...

Two Sicilies, Kingdom of (also, "Kingdom of Naples"):

The Kingdom of the Two Sicilies / Kingdom of Naples did not have its own flag until 1735. Sorry. Sad

Mantua / Mantova (1328-1708):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/it-mantu.html

Again, another dinastic flag, this one of the Gonzaga family, which ruled Mantua until Austria got it... another neat design, IMHO.

Milan, Duchy of (1395-1796):



http://www.fotw.us/flags/it_pd-in.html

The black eagle represents the Holy Roman Empire, and the serpent represents Milan.

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OK. That's all for now... Smile

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