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WendyBinCT
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:56 pm Post subject: Is a land attack on Cartagena possible? |
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I tried landing a party of pillagers on Cartagena a while ago, but every time I tried to beach my ship, l just slipped through the gates and into the city. Recently I saw an Invasion Force (from one of my English colonies, hehe) bombarding from offshore, so I thought I'd try attacking after my compatriots had softened 'em up.
Although I can land on Santa Catalina by parking on the southwest corner, then entering town, chatting up the locals, exiting, sailing away and immediately returning to the same corner (aha, there's my landing party!), I can't seem to do this on Cartagena (and I presume other islands that are totally covered with buildings).
Guess I need to seize their shipping or lob cannonballs at the fort until I get an invitation to attack, eh?
Arrr!
WendyB _________________ Stay as awestruck as you can.
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rupertlittlebear
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: Is a land attack on Cartagena possible? |
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WendyBinCT wrote: |
Guess I need to seize their shipping or lob cannonballs at the fort until I get an invitation to attack, eh? |
That's my bet. |
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Wolfwood
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Just attack and sack some other Spanish towns first. Then return to Cartagena and you'll get the attacking option without having to bombard it first (as doing so will lessen you loot as the town becomes poorer). |
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WendyBinCT
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, fellas!
The flag flying over Cartagena now may be frayed, but it's English!
Stopped into the Ville du Traitre Pirate Haven, found some buccaneers eager to join my crew, and others eager for plunder... escorted them to Cartagena, and fended off the foes who tried to get in their way. The Pirate attack was defeated, but reduced Cartagena's guard to 220.
I knocked off some shipping, lobbed one cannonball at the fort, and immediately got one headed back in my direction, so I knew I was ready for a sea attack!
Woohoo! 7000 gold, 500 acres from the new English Governor, and info from his Attractive daughter about a 5000 bounty on Faulkes in San Juan!
Since then, I've seen an English troop transport and an English military payroll arrive in Cartagena, so I feel confident my new colony will survive.
A pirate's life for me!
WendyB _________________ Stay as awestruck as you can.
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Inky the Great
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Aye, so you can just continue to fire cannonballs at it. I believe when it fires one back at you, you can enter it and attack. Has always worked for me, but then again I do manage to get a couple of their ships before attacking. _________________ “Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates.â€Â-Mark Twain |
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Airsaw
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:54 am Post subject: Yeah, yeah |
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I tried to invade St. Eustatius and St. Martin, to fold the Dutch presence altogether, but they weren't MAD at me. All I could do is enter the city since the islands are so small, it won't give up the landing option.
SO, I had to sit outside and pickoff ships as they exited, until they were good and MAD at me, at which point I sailed into the harbor and got the hostility menu.
I'm fifty-fifty on this. It's an added loop in difficulty, I guess, which required cleverness on my part to beat. Maybe some islands are that small, where landing on the island can only put you in their municipality. It took a tad more time, and cost me in crew who couldn't make the final landing. I could see tangling with a particularly sticky foe and having to go recruit more sailors to make the eventual landing. This didn't happen to me. Had it, I had already recruited my assault force from the surrounding friendly islands, and would have had to go a pretty long way to rebuild a crew ...
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Jambe de Bois
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Yeah, yeah |
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Airsaw wrote: | I tried to invade St. Eustatius and St. Martin..... |
. Airsaw... I've been successful in doing the old walk-up-and-pummel at St. Marten by landing my flagship at the northenmost tip of that small island.
. I have not been able to attack St. Eustatius or Cartagena by the walk-up method... not enough open space between beach and city limits. To beat these boys down I either have to use your method of picking off ships leaving port until I developed enough negative bounty, pound the port itself until it starts shooting back (which I won't do due to subsequent lost port value) or just come back later during a "war-with" stage when, again, my neg-bounty with that country allows me to just sail into port and initiate hostilities. |
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Athos
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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Of course they are possible.
Either shoot the town for a while from sea, our just land a bit further away and let your roudy old pirates have a good walk alongside the beach. _________________ If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate! |
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Asmodina
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Athos wrote: | Of course they are possible.
Either shoot the town for a while from sea, our just land a bit further away and let your roudy old pirates have a good walk alongside the beach. |
You managed a land attack on St. Martin??
Now that is the first time I ever heard of that. |
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Zem
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:11 am Post subject: |
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I think normally you can't attack St. Martin or St. Eustatius (I don't know which). The only case you can do that is when the Dutch (the owner) is pissed off you, so the game LETS you attack when you're trying to sail into the harbour. _________________ I don't have a drinking problem, 'cept when I can't get a drink. Tom Waits |
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dhankskunk
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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I think I am misunderstanding you guys. You're not saying that small settlements can be attacked are you? I've only attacked towns by sailing in & choosing the 'attack town' option when it was available for the reasons already discussed. I never thought of walking up to the town from land to attack it.
...but you can't sack things labeled as 'settlements' can you? _________________ Nothin' ain't worth nothin', but its free. |
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Howie
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Asmodina wrote: | Athos wrote: | Of course they are possible.
Either shoot the town for a while from sea, our just land a bit further away and let your roudy old pirates have a good walk alongside the beach. |
You managed a land attack on St. Martin??
Now that is the first time I ever heard of that. |
Maybe he landed on a neighboring island and had his crew swim to St. Martin. The 2 opposing armies then commenced a hand to hand battle! Seriously, thats another thing I don't like about this game. They put cities on islands that take up the entire island and theres no way to make a landing. I think it was like that in the original game but not sure as it has been years since I played that old game... Go figure, huh... _________________
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Asmodina
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Zem wrote: | I think normally you can't attack St. Martin or St. Eustatius (I don't know which). The only case you can do that is when the Dutch (the owner) is pissed off you, so the game LETS you attack when you're trying to sail into the harbour. |
yeah, one of those two is it. I think St. Martin, but I might be wrong here.
You're right, but I understood the previous poster that he landed on the island and marched to town. |
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Asmodina
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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dhankskunk wrote: | I think I am misunderstanding you guys. You're not saying that small settlements can be attacked are you? I've only attacked towns by sailing in & choosing the 'attack town' option when it was available for the reasons already discussed. I never thought of walking up to the town from land to attack it.
...but you can't sack things labeled as 'settlements' can you? |
No, you can't sack things labeled as settlements. In fact, even if you approach settlements by land, you will not be given an attack option.
You can however attack towns that are not yet so hostile to you that they don't let you sail in the harbour. Just land about three ship lengths away and march there. You will be given an option to attack the city. |
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Striker
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Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Asmodina wrote: | dhankskunk wrote: | I think I am misunderstanding you guys. You're not saying that small settlements can be attacked are you? I've only attacked towns by sailing in & choosing the 'attack town' option when it was available for the reasons already discussed. I never thought of walking up to the town from land to attack it.
...but you can't sack things labeled as 'settlements' can you? |
No, you can't sack things labeled as settlements. In fact, even if you approach settlements by land, you will not be given an attack option.
You can however attack towns that are not yet so hostile to you that they don't let you sail in the harbour. Just land about three ship lengths away and march there. You will be given an option to attack the city. |
I think that it sucks that you cannot attack settlements. It doesn't seem like a complete victory to drive the Spanish out of the Carribean and still have settlements. You would think that the amount of settlements for a certain nation would dynamically be affected by the amount of cities they have present. |
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