Treasure Galleons easily sinkable?

Cussler · Cutthroat Posts: 373 **2686 Gold** -

Has anyone else encountered this problem? Or is it even a problem? Is it a design feature forcing players to board Treasure Galleons to beat them rather than hammer them into surrender?

Basically, in a Large Frigate, 3 broadsides sends the Galleon to the bottom! Three broadsides won't sink an Indian War Canoe, but it sends the largest ships in the Caribbean down to Davy Jones' Locker!

But even more than that, I can do that in a Sloop! Not in three broadsides, but pretty much once I hammer the Galleon down to about 20 cannons and 160 men, or so, the next shot has the masts tumbling and the ship capsizing and sinking.

Sorry if this has been brought up already. I'm new here. Just started playing last Wednesday. I used the search feature, but it really didn't help any.

Striker · Gunner Posts: 727 **680 Gold** -

The problem that you have is you are using solid shot. That will sink a ship every time. What you need is to use chain shot and grape shot. Chain shot will take down the masts forcing the ship to surrender.
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Cussler · Cutthroat Posts: 373 **2686 Gold** -

Some of you are surprised it lasts three broadsides? Shocked

So I guess it's not a bug.

Still, it just seems like it sinks rather easily. It's the largest ship in the game. I haven't encountered this with any other vessel. I can hammer any other Galleon with more hits and it won't sink so fast. But yeah, I've learned from my experiences. Now I only give it one broadside with solid shot, and then go in with chain shot.

But I would like to be able to knock the number of cannon it has down more before I go in if I'm using a Sloop. It's just a preference, and not really important.

fossaman · Gunner Posts: 726 **3515 Gold** -

There's not much point in using round shot on anything with that many guns and crew; demast it and it will surrender, or you can just come in from the stern or bow to avoid the cannon. Besides, if you have both copper plating and cotton sails on that sloop of yours, you should be able to avoid almost all of the broadside by turning as soon as they fire.
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Mycroft Stanyer · Seaman Posts: 146 **2709 Gold** -

I come to believe that the size variants within each ship class are not scaled up in hull strength. The ability to absorb hits may come by ship class itself: the small, medium, and large versions are different only in physical size, cargo/crew capacity, and available gun ports.

Which means a Treasure Galleon is as much a rickety cracker-box of a ship as a Trade Galleon, and I put Trades down on the bottom with as little as two broadsides.

And the Treasure Galleon is physically larger, making the likelihood it will catch the full throwweight of your broadside even greater.

Cussler · Cutthroat Posts: 373 **2686 Gold** -

fossaman · Gunner Posts: 726 **3515 Gold** -

Captain Squid · Seaman Posts: 191 **4360 Gold** -

It has seemed to me from time to time that treasure galleons are unusually fragile, but given the evidence above that doesn't seem to be the case. It must just be that accidentally sinking one of them really gets your attention. All that lovely gold heading for the bottom...it's enough to make even a hardened pirate weep.
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Bakas · Seaman Posts: 164 **232 Gold** -

just a tip, this works with any ship if you want to take her:

you can figure out when to stop shooting a ship with one easy noticible change. When the bow of the ship starts to tilt forward(meaning she is taking on water)STOP SHOOTING!!! its pretty easy to tell in a treasure galleon because that crazy pointy tip is touching the water.
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Cussler · Cutthroat Posts: 373 **2686 Gold** -

Mycroft Stanyer · Seaman Posts: 146 **2709 Gold** -

littlebktruck · Powder Monkey Posts: 20 **388 Gold** -

My problem with the Treasure Galleon is that I feel that I have no choice to sink it. Those 38 guns will sink my Royal Sloop in no time if I get close, and I find it hard to get close, perhaps because my usual tactic with gun-heavy ships is to stay near the edge of round shot range, get my volley in, and run when I see them preparing for a broadside. This works great with Montalban and Reymondo (who won't sink), but for other ships it could be better.

fossaman · Gunner Posts: 726 **3515 Gold** -

It works better to sail parallel to them within range, then turn towards them when they fire. When you dodge, you will get closer. Eventually you will get close enough to close without straightening out again to dodge the next broadside.
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Yellowbeard · Seaman Posts: 208 **7885 Gold** -

I just had to give up my TWO Treasure Galleons in my fleet... got them on my first voyage when I stated a new game... alas, my men were quite unhappy and I couldn't recruit anybody, so I had to split the plunder up!

Anyways, they do seem a bit fragile, which is why I almost always demast them instead of using solid cannonballs.