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Wolfwood
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My present personal favourite is Cockspur VSOR. If you can find it anywhere, do not hesitate to buy it. On my current "have to find and try" list are the following rums:

Blackbeards Reserve Rum 24 year
Pyrat XO
Pyrat Pistol
Rhum Barbancourt 15 y/o
Ron Pampero Aniversario
Ron Zacapa Centenario
Zaya

These rums may well cost about 30 dollars and up (USD) per bottle (Zaya perhaps about 50 dollars).

Another important thing to remember is that you should not really start your rum experience with rums like the above. You should first acquire some experience with different varieties and ages of rum (French tradition vs. British tradition) and only then start experimenting with the more expensive stuff. Only with some experience under your belt will you be able to appreciate the better stuff.

@captainkidd78: Readily available in US stores is rather a hazy concept. I've visited San Diego, Chicago and New Orleans and in every city I have had to search around for the best stocked liquor store before I've found one that's been stocked well with rums (and in every city I had to take a cab and go outside the centre to get to it). Also, the selection in every state seems to be a little different. But if you are looking for some rums to start experimenting with, these should be rather easy to find:

Cruzan Estate Diamond Rum Cask Aged 5 Yr
Cruzan Single Barrel Estate Rum
Appleton V/X or Extra
Mount Gay Special Reserve
Doorly's XO

You might even give a go to Bacardi 8yr, although you should note that Bacardi, even though popular, does not really concentrate on the sipping market (they mostly produce mixing rums).
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Wolfwood. I will be getting some rum to go with me playing of pirates!. I see a lot of prison time...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Wolfwood,
your comments bring back some nice memories of having a retired judge in Quito (with his WC Fields bulbous proboscis) sit me down to help him decide which rums he was going to order next (3 cases of this one, eight of that one...). His favorite, and still mine, is Ron Matusalem, which was originally from Santiago de Cuba (which I will sack in a couple of days...), but now is made in FL. Since it was no longer available in Ecuador, he was saving two cases to have poured on his grave... I can't get it in ABC-oppressed NC, either.
What a night, though!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@andyrew: Ah, that's quite a story. Sounds like a man worth knowing. Ron Matusalem Gran Reserva 15 Solera (the very lengthy complete name) is also one of my favourites. But if you liked that one, I recommend you try get some Cockspur VSOR into your hands. They are somewhat similar in character, but, in my opinion, Cockspur draws the longer straw in the endgame.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah - I'd love to chat about how much I love the new Pirates! game, but alas, it's still in the mail somewhere. So instead I'll join in on this conversation of another one of life's many splendors - RUM Smile

My own favorites include Mount Gay Extra Old, Blackbeard's 25 Year Reserve, Pyrat Cask 23, and Ron Matusalem Gran Reserva.

I had the pleasure of visiting the New Orleans Rum distillery last summer, which produces a rum you review on your site, Wolfwood. If any rum drinkers have yet to tour a distillery, I hightly recommend it - great fun, and there's nothing quite like seeing thousands of oak casks lining a warehouse. I didn't care much for their NO rum straight, but they do have a premium line (CANE) that tastes strangely like scotch. They also have a Cane Crystal, which is the only white rum I've ever cared to drink straight - very unusual stuff.

My current bottle is Goslings Gold, which just popped up in my store a couple of weeks ago. Their Black Seal rum is fantastic (but definitely not gentle,) so I was excited to see them branch into the world of ambers. Gosling's Gold is a bit tamer than their black, but still packs a whallop. Definitely not a starter rum.

Cockspur is a new one by me - I'll have to look it up.

May as well take this opportunity to plug my own online rum reviews at Bilgemunky.com. I don't go into the history and other aspects of rum production (leave that for experts like Wolfwood), but I do have a decent assortment of rums to read about, along with lots of other piratey goodies.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Havana Club Anejo 7 Anos is really good, nice and smooth. I had a bottle of it while I was over in Europe. Some might say I spoiled it by making rum and cokes with it. But let me tell you this, there are few drinks better than a rum and coke made with high quality rum and coca cola from a glass bottle.

It's too bad I can't get more of it back in the states.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm.... the word "anejo" is usually associated with tequillas, not rum. I did a search, and right you are, there's a Havana Anejo rum.

I've never had the pleasure of trying a genuine Cuban rum - my understanding is that they tend to be light and sweet, like a Pyrat rum. Any opinions?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bilgemunky wrote:
Hmmm.... the word "anejo" is usually associated with tequillas, not rum. I did a search, and right you are, there's a Havana Anejo rum.

I've never had the pleasure of trying a genuine Cuban rum - my understanding is that they tend to be light and sweet, like a Pyrat rum. Any opinions?


When I bought it I was in Italy, and I don't speak Italian.. or Spanish so I thought Anejo meant "Aged". Translation: "Aged 7 Years". I didn't realize it was a liquor term.

Anyhow, a Google search later yields:
http://www.drinksmixer.com/desc160.html wrote:
Anejo Rum is a golden blend of rich, aged rums with a mellow taste and rich aroma.

It's name comes from the ancient Spanish word "Añejo" meaning "aged".


Anyhow,
It was light and sweet. I have never had Pyrat rum before.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolf,

Picked up a bottle of Pyrat XO and it is great. Very different from Appleton VX or Extra, but good in its own way. Thanks for the tip. Smile

If anyone is looking for a way to get rums they can't find locally, here's an interesting link:

http://www.bevmo.com/productlist.asp?sasrc=HomeNav&N=168+166+40+4294962089+4294961975&area=spirits&
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! It is great to see so many rummies amongst pirates! Remind me never to sink you ships (if we ever get to play this game online), but to invite you over for a pleasant night with rum and music!

@Billy Bones: Oh, now I envy you! I want that rum also! Sad

@xwred5: I've only drank Havana Club rums (Anejo Reserva, which I prefer, and Anejo 7 Anos) but neither of them is really light and sweet. The Ron Matusalem made in FL nowadays is light and sweet, though, but also a lot older (about 12 yr blend if I remember correctly).

@Bilgemunky: I'll be sure to read your reviews as soon as possible. As it is, I did receive my Pirates! LE yesterday and I have to work now to lessen my guilt for wanting to only play the game... Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolfwood wrote:

@xwred5: I've only drank Havana Club rums (Anejo Reserva, which I prefer, and Anejo 7 Anos) but neither of them is really light and sweet. The Ron Matusalem made in FL nowadays is light and sweet, though, but also a lot older (about 12 yr blend if I remember correctly).


I need to drink more varieties of Rum I guess Oops

Alas, it was good stuff Wink

Thanks for the information, I will be keeping a note of rums I must drink.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

captainkidd78 wrote:
What, in all of your opinions, is the best readily available rum in stores (in America)? I liked Mount Gay Sugar Cane Rum? but there doesn't seem to be much of a choice in the USA. Only MOrgan's, Bacardi, Malibu, and Mount Gay.

I don't see Appleton's in my local store. America has everything, except what I want...


Our grocery stores in the Chicago burbs carry Appletons. If you can find Cruzan rum, I totally recommend it - it is THE best.....mmmm.....

Edited to add: A GREAT rum drink to try - a Pain Killer. Mix up some pineapple juice, rum, and coconut milk - to DIE for - and man, do they EVER kill the pain Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angle,

Pyrat is made by Patron, the Tiquila people. Their web site lists Southern Wine & Spirits in Chicago at 630-685-3000. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the best rum shops in Chicago is called Binny's Beverage Depot, and the best stocked one is at 3000 N. Clark. I visited it a couple of years ago on a conference trip and I must say that it is very much worth a visit, even if you have to travel a bit farther to get there.

Apparently another good one, located about ten minutes from Binney's, is Sam’s Wines & Spirits.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, you guys have inspired me to broaden my horizons. Being a bourbon/whiskey guy myself (premium stuff like Woodford Reserve, Bookers, Baker's, etc.), I never put much stock in rum. I like good tequila, and I like good gin or good vodka for my martinis, but I've never tried rum straight up.

Thanks for getting me to think about trying something new!
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