1004 gold per crewmember?

MATT001 · Powder Monkey Posts: 35 **831 Gold** -

According to the excellent strategy guide by "Sashanan", this is the amount of gold required to prevent a crew from ever becoming mutinous, and this seems to be an accepted fact within the Pirates! community.

Now here's my problem. My latest character, Arfur Boggis, has been sailing for 62 months and has a crew of 90. I have roughly 100300 gold, which should be enough to prevent any hint of mutiny within my crew. Trouble is...they recently became mutinous. I have neither the 3-stringed Fiddle nor the Concertina, but I do have the Cook and I have plenty of Food.

So my question is: have any of you encountered this problem before and if so, what gives?
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loki59 · Rigger Posts: 1082 **24252 Gold** -

Deduct your share of the gold first, according to these percentages. Do you still have 1000 per crew member left? Get more gold, 4000 per crewman makes em real happy. Smile

Apprentice: 5 % of the gold
Journeyman: 10 % of the gold
Adventurer: 20 % of the gold
Rogue: 30 % of the gold
Swashbuckler: 50 % of the gold

sparticus · Helmsman Posts: 5818 **44872 Gold** -

MATT001 · Powder Monkey Posts: 35 **831 Gold** -

Thank you for the welcome. Can I ask whether you're asking me to deduct my share based on your own gameplay experiences? Because the latest version of the guide hosted at GameFAQs states that the previous versions are in error - crew happiness is determined based on the amount of gold in the hold, not how much each individual member stands to gain.
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Guru · Gunner Posts: 678 **1240 Gold** -

sparticus · Helmsman Posts: 5818 **44872 Gold** -

MATT001 · Powder Monkey Posts: 35 **831 Gold** -

I do indeed play with the patch, and incidentally my difficulty level is Rogue, which should only make the gold needed lower. I don't know what caused it, but it's of little account now, as I managed to gain yet more gold and keep my crew under control. I now have 107 crew and 0.16 million gold, so that should keep them happy Laughing

. Thank you all for your advice and welcomes, in any case.

I have another completely unrelated question. Has any one noticed that the random tons of Spice that named pirates seem to carry around seem not to be counted on their cargo limit? I recently encountered Roc Brasiliano sailing his 90-ton Royal Sloop, and he had a total of 96 tons in its hold...
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Guru · Gunner Posts: 678 **1240 Gold** -

MATT001 · Powder Monkey Posts: 35 **831 Gold** -

You call me observant? I don't take notice of cargo space Very Happy

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My thinking is that they always carry the maximum number of guns, fill the rest of their cargo hold with food, and then carry a randomly determined amount of Spice, thus exceeding their cargo limit. Just an interesting oddity.
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Guru · Gunner Posts: 678 **1240 Gold** -

Wolfwood · Boatswain Posts: 2527 **33917 Gold** -

Guru · Gunner Posts: 678 **1240 Gold** -

Tom Pullings · Gunner Posts: 534 **11279 Gold** -

I seem to recall some discussion of this issue before in some posts by WhiteCat (?). But maybe I am hallucinating.

Guru · Gunner Posts: 678 **1240 Gold** -

Sashanan · Swabbie Posts: 107 **1172 Gold** -

Odd...I'd have thought the formula would have to be correct now. Mind you, I did not take a look inside the game files myself, it was copied from an e-mail I got, but it came out correct in the tests I've run and also supports the common rule of thumb "1000 gold per crew member" (or at least, very close to it in all scenarios except where your crew is ridiculously small).

The only thing that has nagged me about the formula is that the Quartermaster, who from the game description would have a function similar to the Cook, does not appear in it at all. But it wouldn't be the first example of a game feature that's documented but not present or functional - items improving relations with missionaries/indians, Artillery in land battles...

Best as I can tell, your crew should not have mutinied at the point you indicated; suggesting the formula is either incorrect somewhere (at least for the version of the game you played) or we're still missing one or more factors.
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