Was there ever an existing Chinese Junk model?

JohntheFoot · Powder Monkey Posts: 8 **233 Gold** -

The SEA mod would feel complete with a junk model to represent Chinese ships that sailed in the South China Sea and elsewhere at the time. Scouring through this forum it looks like a junk model for the model was planned at one time about a decade ago, but I canâ€™t find anything since. Is there a (likely unfinished) model out there? Iâ€™d love to see it in the mod.

corsair91 · Sailing Master Posts: 8250 **207513 Gold** -

Not aware of any SM Pirates Chinese Junk Model
other than as a possible wish list item mention.

Original SM Pirates game is Caribbean Map Based so no default
Junk model included

SM Pirates Modelling can be extremely difficult and seldom done
successfully, only for a very limited amount of models
(Swords & Daughter tweaked models mostly)
Blender & NIF plugins environment is extremely version dependant

Parksbanyon did do a tartane/proa Ship Model

See

NIF creation 101 Thread
http://www.hookedonpirates.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6846

Thread Download Links may now be dead, see Dropbox Content Link below

Parksbanyon Mods Info
http://hookedonpirates.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7905

Thread Links

parksbanyon Mods Dropbox
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/byelhcafi0chrnr/AAChuiBjrfVxkRDHwTTd0oMPa?dl=0

PraoNew1.png
Proa sailing.png
Proa Z30.nif
ProaNew2.png

Proa Info
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proa

Proas are various types of multi-hull outrigger sailboats of the
Austronesian peoples

for a mod that includes a Proa

Pirates o' the East Indies 2020 (SE Asia map)
http://hookedonpirates.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8301

by themodelcitizen

corsair91 · Sailing Master Posts: 8250 **207513 Gold** -

While there are Chinese Junk ship models around on the Internet

Google search on say junk ship 3d model

For example
https://open3dmodel.com/3d-models/junk

As far as I can recall, nobody has ever managed to import any of these to be
useable as a SM pirates NIF file

themodelcitizen · Gunner Posts: 865 **14671 Gold** -

Welcome to the forum, I think parksbanyon was working on one for a while but it was never completed.

As I recall, there's enough instructions in different threads that someone with some basic graphic design ability could make one using the same techniques. Nifs and stuff (I'm clueless in that area so have focused on modding every other area of the game)

JohntheFoot · Powder Monkey Posts: 8 **233 Gold** -

Thanks! Parks is the person I was thinking of. He discussed having made a junk hull here: http://hookedonpirates.com/forwarder.html?http://hookedonpirates.com/forums/

I have zero experience in 3D modelling myself unfortunately. I did have this thought though: Civ IV runs on the same engine as Pirates, right? Among the countless mods people have made for Civ, surely there's been a model of a Chinese-type junk formatted for that game. Could that asset be transferred to Pirates?

themodelcitizen · Gunner Posts: 865 **14671 Gold** -

For sharing threads, right click on the small page icon at the top of the first post (beside "Posted:" and the date), and copy that link. Otherwise our wonderful decades-old forum tends not to deal with links too well...

I think SMP is its own beast when it comes to mesh models like ships, but I'd have to defer to someone more qualified to speak on that

corsair91 · Sailing Master Posts: 8250 **207513 Gold** -

The impression I got is that Sid Meier's Pirates game is an orphan
compared to the CIV games

Someone did import the Sid Meier Pirates default ships to CIV 3
but no idea how it was done

Stumbled over the release thread only
(have not found any development thread as yet)

Civ 3 ships borrowed from Sid Meier's Pirates!
http://hookedonpirates.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9046

JohntheFoot · Powder Monkey Posts: 8 **233 Gold** -

fleetp · Boatswain Posts: 3735 **36119 Gold** -

The models in SMP are in .NIF format. I do not know what format the models in CIV use. At a minimum, the CIV models would need to be converted to NIF format and renamed.

The texture files in SMP are in DDS format. I do not know what format the model textures in CIV use.

corsair91 · Sailing Master Posts: 8250 **207513 Gold** -

Civilization IV (2005) is also a Gamebryo Engine game
Civilization III is apparently a Fraxis Custom Game Engine

Sid Meier Pirates (2004) was the First Fraxis developed
Gamebro Engine game

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamebryo
(formerly NetImmerse until 2003)

The FPK Archives are container files,
so File formats may vary between different games

Civilization Games Fan Site
http://www.civfanatics.com/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/

JohntheFoot · Powder Monkey Posts: 8 **233 Gold** -

fleetp · Boatswain Posts: 3735 **36119 Gold** -

fpkpacker is what most of us here use to unpack fpk files Here's a link

https://docs.google.com/uc?authuser=0&id=0B2xwa6LsMHzmYkFOT0IyUnJxdHc&export=download

Unpacking Files

Check if the application status is UNPACKER (if the caption on the button is unpack then you are good to go). If you are not go to File-->Unpack and you should see the caption of the button changing from Pack to Unpack. Specify the location of the package file and a directory where the contents will be unpacked. Press the button and wait untill the process finishes. (The contents of the log box will flicker untill the app finishes).

That was all folks. If you notice any bugs please post here and I will correct them.

Status Completed Final

corsair91 posted the following in another thread.

Civ4 PakBuild

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/civ4-pakbuild.136023/

Civ4 PakBuild is a program released by Firaxis that allows you to unpak the Art0.FPK file in the \Civilization IV\Assets\ folder. It's available for Win XP and Win2K.

(PakBuild can also be used with Sid Meier Pirates)

PakBuild is already here in Mods- Other

PakBuild

http://www.hookedonpirates.com/mods/index.php?action=downloadfile&filename=PakBuild.zip&directory=Other&

Pakbuild tutorial link Courtesy of fleetp
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=187699

https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/using-pakbuild-to-compress-your-art-folder.297865/

https://www.moddb.com/tutorials/how-to-de-compress-the-pak-files-not-finished-need-testing

Pirate · Helmsman Posts: 5589 **109759 Gold** -

I unpacked mine using a sawed off double barrel 12 gauge shotgun but it busted my screen out so I canâ€™t really tell you whether it got unpacked or not but I donâ€™t see how I could have missed a folder by taking out the entire screen.

JohntheFoot · Powder Monkey Posts: 8 **233 Gold** -

Pirate · Helmsman Posts: 5589 **109759 Gold** -

Oh boy thatâ€™s a bad one. Never read anything past the end of a file. Thatâ€™s where the boogie man is and trust me was you to read past the end it really is your end.