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Guardacostas
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:28 pm    Post subject: Land attack on Cartegena? Reply with quote

Has anyone else wished to do a land attack on cartegena but can't? Is this a bug or is the city IRL situated on a small island?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which Cartegena are you referring to?

South american one or possibly an East Indies mod one ?


The Cartegena in columbia was attacked many times in its history
and some were highly successful, others not so much
As time went on Cartegena had improved defences.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartagena,_Colombia


see wikipedia for full info

Outline of attacks

1544 French pirate Jean-François Roberval
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Fran%C3%A7ois_Roberval

1568 Sir John Hawkins

1569 French pirate Martin Cote

1586 Francis Drake

1697 Raid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Cartagena_(1697)

1741 Siege by Admiral Edward Vernon RN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cartagena_de_Indias

1815 attack by Spain during the Columbia independance war


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cartegena
Thrym865 seems to have managed it
(probably default game & no mods)


Sid Meier's Pirates! Sacking Cartagena twice (Swashbuckler) HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeW4Ey8q3Qg

Thrym865


This is me sacking Cartagena twice.

Thrym865
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaq95Lig6eSwbcBHqfOSCtw

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Sid Meier's Pirates! HD
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLejjTo1oIetJ1LIHU_cCraSGdU8Ol-szs

Sid Meier's Pirates!
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLejjTo1oIetJIlm5fvHYhe3f9-p8v2Ytr


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loaded up a 1660 game and tried to land near Cartegena, and walk to it to attack, but was unable to do so. I either sailed into the harbor or was told to either turn around or return to my ship. Sad
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Guardacostas
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same thing with Macao in the east indies mod. Is macao an island? probably not, and it's fair prize if the economy's wealthy and has 10,000 + citizens
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this was the fix for Barbados back in the day

alter the x and y coordinates for the "Barbados" entry in landscape.ini
[Terrain44] Section


What do you have currently in landscape.ini

for
Macao in the east indies mod.

and
Cartegena ?
Which mod is this?


perhaps try move them into the playable area
like what was done with Barbados
(EDIT: or say follow the move cities procedure)


themodelcitizen & Pirate
may perhaps need to have a look to see what if anything they can do on this
for East indies mod in particular
(best to await what they say
A a guess most likely cities are being placed in a non playable area of the map glitch
Not sure enough knowledge is there yet for fixing this
in the part of the map component that defines the playable area).

Are there savegames available that can be provided
for both locations?
along with a mods list for both as well any other info like
time period or playing mode etc


Reference links:
jlangsdo's mods - Release Threads Links
http://www.hookedonpirates.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8206

covers most of the maps topics


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guardacostas wrote:
Same thing with Macao in the east indies mod. Is macao an island? probably not, and it's fair prize if the economy's wealthy and has 10,000 + citizens


you can totally march there, I just checked and landed on a little peninsula just to the west before maneuvering my men to the back of Macao:



although good point that it seems a bit overpowered, can look at trimming the pop'n/soldiers
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After multiple tries, I was able to land on the southwest edge of Cartagena and start walking to the town, where I was given the option to enter the town or attack it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you may not be able to land right at the town, try further away
and march inland at a guess

Try coming in behind the town
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Guardacostas
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THanks all. I gave myself today off from SMP. I can handle it say 3 days in a row than i go mad because it's still that same old game


Just checking to see what was going on with it. Sailor


I didn't say it's overpowered, i was just saying it's tons of gold if you sack it
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m sure I have sacked them all at one point or another. I may not have sacked all the East Indies but the Caribbean sacking cities was my thing. I would sack them until I was a Duke of a particular nation then I would pull a Benjamin Arnold and start appointing governors for a new allegiance.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, once you are a duke youre immune to said nation extracting revenge for captured ships and sacked towns
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