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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without knowing what the 'features' are I don't see a need to jump through hoops to install version 22H2.

After two hours it failed to install it on the laptop.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2022 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Microsoft is deliberately pushing Windows 11 now
so does not want to encourage people in any way to stay with 10.
If it has to trash Windows 10 to do so, C'est la vie!

There are all those new system sales to be had
with new OS licenses & cashflow


anyway

Google search on say
Windows 10 version 22H2


some search hits

Windows 10 version 22H2: Everything you need to know
https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-10/windows-10-version-22h2

This release has no new features, only fixes and quality of life updates.

...
focuses on a scoped set of features and changes most beneficial to Microsoft's enterprise customers.
such as new group policies


(Apparently phazers, transporters, tricorders & replicators not included!
The only enterprise I want from Microsoft is boldly going into
producing an actual tested working OS with installable working updates
especially on an AMD CPU)


https://www.computerworld.com/article/3677571/what-does-windows-10-22h2-bring-to-the-table-not-much.html


What’s new in Windows 10 version 22H2?
https://www.digitalcitizen.life/windows-10-version-22h2/


WINDOWS 10 22H2: EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW
https://pureinfotech.com/windows-10-22h2-everything-know/


Windows 10 22H2 is released, here's what we know
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-10-22h2-is-released-heres-what-we-know/


New Features of Windows 10 22H2 | Issues Fixed
https://www.anoopcnair.com/new-features-of-windows-10-22h2-issues-fixed/



Windows 10 version history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_version_history


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AMD system

Windows 10 version 22H2 Feature update
no longer appears on available updates

also the multiple failed installs no longer appear in updates history

I had left this alone as 22H2 did not appear all that useful anyway
since it would not install at all previously

Windows 10 Home does not include the Group policy editor
as a Pro version feature.
(for Home, have to edit the registry instead) so can't make
use of any policies and not the most useful update
(Microsoft simply don't want to directly support end Users
using Group policies, so left it to network admins to sort it all out)

System Info reports 22H2 Build 19045.2364
yet not appearing in installed feature updates history
as still list 21H1 as latest.

(21H1 is now out of Microsoft support anyway,
possibly part of the reason for the 22H2 rollout now
even though it may not install initially on an AMD CPU)

22H2 not reported to require a reboot after install


yet a 22H2 KB4023057 update has installed

KB4023057 was already installed back sometime in March
appears to one of those things Microsoft regularly push out
for Windows update reliability

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-pushes-windows-10-kb4023057-again-to-fix-update-issues/
June 12, 2021

EDIT:
Checked Control Panel - Programs - View installed Updates
Feature update 22H2 listed here


There should be no reason why Microsoft cannot
rollout working updates ahead of schedule, fully working & tested
and under budget and this should be the normal operating methodology
with realistic schedules.
Meanwhile back in reality it is somewhat different

With computers things can and will go wrong.
Testing helps reduce that.
It how you handle this, is what makes a good company.
(Excellent is Good you have already done.)

It is much harder to actually do it wrong, as doing it right the first time
is generally cheaper and easier.
But if you fundamentally don't care, then all bets are off.

End users are effectively now Microsoft's Q&A department.
what seems to matter to Microsoft is more the share price & dividends
or for the employee's their stock portfolio.
A working product seems to matter a lot less,
so is skimped on and can be seen as such.

A working product is that awkward thing
that Corps tend to insist on, otherwise they won't buy it.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tech Tips

Windows Doesn’t Suck! Microsoft Just Wants You To Think So…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GASGO0go5I


Linus Tech Tips
Jan 21, 2023

Forum Thread
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1482968-windows-doesn%E2%80%99t-suck-microsoft-just-wants-you-to-think-so%E2%80%A6/


Timecodes on Youtube page

CHAPTERS

0:00 Intro
0:51 Group Policy Editor (PolicyPlus)
2:14 Task Scheduler is underappreciated
3:11 Microsoft PowerToys (FancyZones, Run, Keyboard Manager)
5:44 Sysinternals (RegJump, Autoruns, Process Explorer, TCPView)
8:44 Windows Subsystem for Linux - More than a gimmick
9:59 Windows Terminal - Quake Mode, customization, winget
11:43 Windows has SSH built in now
12:29 Keyboard shortcuts, God Mode, and other tricks

Linus Tech Tips
https://www.youtube.com/@LinusTechTips


Just a note on Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL)
Don't turn on WSL if you are already using other VM software like VirtualBox.
It slows those down A LOT.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corsair I’m having a issue with script host error Maintenance.vbs and I tried a couple tricks recommended to fix it but it’s still there. Not a big issue but it’s annoying seeing it after start up . Media player crashes too after windows 11 upgrade. All drivers are up to date for the most part everything runs good.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

windows 11 upgrade, was this a Windows Update - upgrade in place
or using the media creation tool to create an Install DVD Image
(Burn to a DVD Disk) or USB Install Stick ?


For media player, switching to another player
may ultimately be the easiest fix

(a long standing windows irritation, is not being able to uninstall
& reinstall major integrated Windows apps such as media player
or the Edge Browser without having to wipe & reinstall the complete
Windows OS

Or try a Windows Install Repair - Refresh files
(ensure you keep your data and you do have a backup?)
unless you get lucky and there is a newer app version installer available
to upgrade
Switching to 3rd party software - media player or browser
is usually the most convenient option)


For example, the Free Open source

VLC media player
https://www.videolan.org/

Which can also play DVD Movie Disks,
and other media formats which Windows media player
cannot by default without added 3rd party codecs
https://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html

Set that as default Windows app in
Settings App - Apps - Default Apps
for Music Player & Video Player

VLC uses it's own codecs (installed with VLC)
so can co-exist with Windows media player

To upgrade an existing install,
either download latest version and run the installer to upgrade
or VLC Help Menu - Check for updates
which downloads the latest version. uninstall the existing version
and install the new version
(admin rights required)

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Google search on say
script host error Maintenance.vbs
or
maintenance.vbs

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/maintenancevbs-windows-script-host-error/9f380a60-333b-4276-bc96-53137dd82ae1


List this as a solution (see further below)

Further solutions suggest run a system virus scan
as error can be the leftover of a virus hit entry in the registry.

can also be a Windows update or Feature pack - OS system breakage


Maintenance.vbs Windows Script Host Error

I am on a Windows 10 system. For approximately 2-3 months now I have been receiving a Windows Script Host error when booting the system. It occurs The error says "Can not find script file C:\WINDOWS\system32\Maintenance.vbs" How do I resolve this?


The solution is to basically recreate that file and put an exit script into it


Right click your Desktop and choose New - Text Document

Put this text in that file:

Wscript.Quit


Then click File - Save As

At the bottom of the save as dialog, set save as type to *.*

Save the files as Maintenance.vbs

Note you must enter the vbs file extension yourself



Open Windows File Explorer

Navigate to:

C:\WINDOWS\system32\

Copy that file from your Desktop into that folder

Restart your PC

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This video outlines the same procedure as above for Wscript.Quit

Can not Find Script File Maintenance.vbs error in Windows 10 , 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpNCjDZJfAw

The Geek Page

--------------------

https://appuals.com/can-not-find-script-file-maintenance/


https://www.file.net/process/maintenance.vbs.html

Maintenance.vbs is not essential for the Windows OS and causes relatively few problems. Maintenance.vbs is located in the C:\Windows\System32 folder. Known file sizes on Windows 10/11/7 are 1,151 bytes (50% of all occurrences) or 1,133 bytes.
The program has a visible window. The file is a Windows scheduled task


Some malware also uses the file name Maintenance.vbs, for example Trojan.VBS.CRACKONOSH.A (detected by TrendMicro), and Trojan:Script/Wacatac.B!ml (detected by Microsoft). Therefore, you should check the Maintenance.vbs process on your PC to see if it is a threat



This is also suggested in the orginal Microsoft answers thread above.
Perform these steps

1. Restarting the computer,
2. Putting the computer in safe mode then restarting it,
3. Running SFC /scannow (This does not report any problems),
4. Running a powershell and inputting these commands:

DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth
DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth


Further info on
Sfc Command (System File Checker)
http://hookedonpirates.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9078

Deployment Image Servicing and Management (DISM)
Typically, the DISM command is used when the SFC utility
is unable to repair corrupted or modified system files.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[Fix] Script Error C:\Windows\system32 Maintenance.vbs at Startup
https://www.winhelponline.com/blog/script-error-maintenance-vbs-at-startup/

See link for screenshots and full fix procedure


Open Task Scheduler (taskschd.msc) via the Start menu.

Expand Task Scheduler Library → Microsoft → Windows → Maintenance

Right-click InstallWinSAT task, and choose Disable

(Don’t disable the WinSAT task, as it’s a factory-default task added by Windows 10.)

Open the C:\Windows\System32 folder and delete Maintenance.vbs

Run a full system scan using your anti-virus software.

Additionally, download Malwarebytes anti-malware
or equivalent and run a thorough scan. This is important!
https://www.malwarebytes.com/


Note that the InstallWinSAT task is not seen in a clean Windows 10 setup. Also, the ServiceInstaller.msi and the maintenance.vbs files are not part of the Windows 10 ISO or DVD. It’s highly likely that the task and the related VBScript file were added by an undesirable program.


More info on “InstallWinSAT” and “Maintenance.vbs”

The InstallWinSAT Scheduled Task details are below:

Task: {8E61C681-5B56-4566-BEFF-436ABCBE3FBD}
System32\Tasks\Microsoft\Windows\Maintenance\InstallWinSAT
C:\Windows\system32\Maintenance.vbs

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How to Remove Invalid Entries from Task Manager Startup tab
https://www.winhelponline.com/blog/task-manager-startup-tab-entries-remove-invalid/
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2023 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I no longer use Windows Media player (too many problems). I use the VLC media player that Corsair mentioned.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I stuck the script quit in the wrong place. Yeah I like VLC i don't have it now but I haven't really needed it. Media player was set as the default player so that's why I know but I rarely watch anything. Widows media player does ok. I've checked for viruses nothing comes up.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been using Classic Shell now Open shell
since the Win 8x days

(For Win 10 a choice of Win Classic 98 or 2000, Win XP or Win7
Style Interfaces)

Classic Shell (later Open Shell) Freeware
http://www.hookedonpirates.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8960


Anyway on an AMD system noticed that it was failing to auto update
so was still using an ages old version.

So manually installed the latest stable version upgrade
and Win10 System response apparently a lot less sluggish.

(an Intel system had an even older Shell version and no
apparent performance response hit)

Windows updates have gone sort of quiet for now.
The only fix I have done is generally wait for an actual
working installable Microsoft Windows Update

My latest irritation is the Chrome Browser
refusing to prevent youtube clips from auto playing
unlike Firefox.
(this is deliberate by Google)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Windows 10: One Year to Go -- & what we do next!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hlBeV0IIoU

ExplainingComputers
Oct 13, 2024


Windows 10 support ends on October 14th 2025

But what if your computer does not support Windows 11?
Or you do not want to install Windows 11?

This video outlines all of the possibilities -- from doing nothing, to extended security updates (ESUs), an unofficial Windows 11 install, migrating to Linux, and more . .


Chapters:
00:00 Titles & Intro
01:28 Do Nothing
03:05 Go Offline
03:41 Extended Security Updates
06:06 Third-Party Patches
07:27 Windows 10 LTSC Versions
08:59 Unofficial Windows 11
11:50 Linux
13:15 A ChromiumOS
13:33 Something Else?
15:11 Stats & Wrap


ExplainingComputers
https://www.youtube.com/@ExplainingComputers


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anybody here switched from Windows 10 already? If so, what did you do?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's How Much an Extra Year of Windows 10 Security Updates Will Cost You
https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-10-extended-security-updates-cost/


If you're dead set on continuing to use Windows 10 after Microsoft ends support in October 2025, you can now pay for an extra year of updates. And we now know how much that extra year of Extended Security Updates (ESU) will cost.

Microsoft will be ending support for Windows 10 on October 14, 2025, and really wants as many people to upgrade to Windows 11 before that date arrives.


Microsoft Offers ESU to Consumers Still Using Windows 10

However, for the first time ever, personal users will be able to pay for an extra year of security updates for an unsupported version of Windows. Which, in this case, is Windows 10.

Business users have been able to leverage ESU previously, giving them more time to upgrade their legion of PCs. But now, with Windows 10, consumers are being given the option too.

Microsoft reveals that the "ESU program for consumers will be a one-year option available for $30." And that "program enrollment will be available closer to the end of support in 2025."

As a reminder, paying for ESU only buys you "Critical and Important security updates for Windows 10". However, "new features, bug fixes, and technical support will no longer be available from Microsoft". Plus, as well as the price, we now know that this is a one-time deal, with ESU only available to consumers for a single year.

All of which means that, in essence, Windows 10 users signing up for ESU would just be delaying the inevitable.
Which is either upgrading their current machine to Windows 11, or, if it isn't eligible for an upgrade, buying a new Windows 11 PC.
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